Long-time frontline domestic violence counsellor Carmel O’Brien’s book Blame Changer sounds a clarion call for a change in the way we talk about the problem, for shifting the blame from victim to perpetrator. In this no-nonsense interview with ABC Local Radio’s Conversations with Ann Hall, Carmel lays out the bare facts about DV in Australia to cut through the confusion that characterises popular debate about the subject – no insignificant accomplishment in our increasingly post-fact world.